Talk:Master of Business Administration

Terminal degree?

Can those who are edit-warring over whether this is a terminal degree please discuss your positions and evidence? Continuing to edit war will likely lead to blocks or protection of the article. Thanks so much! ElKevbo (talk) 20:56, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

I would support saying that the MBA is considered a terminal degree. It is not expected that top people practicing in the field of Business Administration will need to pursue additional study to achieve that rank, for example CEOs. Even the alternative mentioned in the Fortune article linked below, the law degree, is generally a JD, also generally considered a terminal degree. JDs and PhDs are up to 30% of the total of 'other' advanced degrees held by CEOs. Doctorates in Business, whether professional doctorates or PhDs, are not a commonly pursued or held credential as compared to the MBA degree's popularity among business leaders. I couldn't find similar support for small business owners though. Maybe there's a competing point of view there for the higher level degrees outside of the S&P 500?

"About 40% of S&P 500 CEOs have an MBA, in any given year. It is, by far, the degree with the most representation among such executives. Between 25% and 30% of S&P 500 CEOs have another type of advanced degree, like a PhD or law degree." Dec 18, 2014 The MBA degree and the astronomical rise in CEO pay - Fortune 173.175.71.110 (talk) 02:32, 23 July 2016 (UTC) HDL

The problem here is that you're engaging in WP:SYNTHESIS; i.e. synthesizing a conclusion from sources that isn't actually stated by the sources. If reliable sources don't say it, then we can't say it either. ~Amatulić (talk) 16:29, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Let me try that again. The logic to conclude that MBA meets the already linked definition of a terminal degree: My original comment is linked to an article with support that an MBA meets the definition of a terminal degree that was linked to in this article. The definition of a Terminal degree, "In many cases such as law and medicine, the first professional degree is also the terminal degree, usually because no further advanced degree is required for practice in that field, even though more advanced academic degrees may exist." i.e. CEOs are top people practicing in the field of business. Most CEOs of largest public companies have MBAs, therefore for business the MBA can be considered a terminal degree within the top business profession. Another paper showing CEO education breakdowns can be found here at the bottom of page 6 if you just want a separate source article for the CEO stats. 173.175.71.110 (talk) 20:15, 30 July 2016 (UTC)HDL

Let me try again. We don't draw conclusions in Wikipedia articles. We report what the sources say, not what we think they mean.

It bears repeating: We don't draw conclusions in Wikipedia articles.

If you cannot find a reliable source that says the MBA degree is a terminal degree, then we cannot say it in the article. It doesn't matter if a source says a law degree or a medical degree is a terminal degree, or that the first professional degree is a terminal degree. The MBA degree needs to be identified as a terminal degree. Please review Wikipedia:No original research and in particular WP:SYNTHESIS. ~Amatulić (talk) 07:38, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

I doubled up on the citations, so we now have (1) Peterson's (probably the oldest and most respected education company) and (2) the "Complete Book of Graduate Programs in the Arts and Sciences." If that's not sufficient, perhaps nothing short of God himself intervening could straighten out our confused friend. If the IP editor removes it again, I'll get the article page protected.--TDJankins (talk) 11:49, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

References

Failed verification

Assuming good faith, rather than rollback Mmedpod's recent edits to list the Indian School of Business as "one of the world's most selective schools", am adding a failed verification tag.

Can't find a source but perhaps someone more familiar with the subject can - I don't know whether this is true or not.

Jonathan Deamer (talk) 10:48, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2023 (2)

change "to criticisms of the MBA's role in society" Riddhi Siddhi Education (talk) 07:54, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 08:00, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 February 2025

Please delete the duplicate isbn=9780230624818 here:

<ref>{{cite book|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=ueuHDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA4|title=The Rise of Cass Business School:The Journey to World-Class: 1966 Onwards|author=A. Williams |date= 7 February 2006|publisher=Palgrave Macmillan UK| page=4isbn=9780230624818|isbn=978-0-230-62481-8 }}</ref>

Thanks 76.14.122.5 (talk) 19:44, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

Good spot. Fixed. Robminchin (talk) 21:28, 28 February 2025 (UTC)